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#1  【美选】她的算盘和盘算

宾州获胜之后希拉里人气大增。最近她又放话——自己赢得全国民主党初选选民多数票选。

这个突然反超的结果是怎么样子算出来的呢?原来她不但把遭惩罚不计数的佛州票数计算在内,而且把同样不计数的密州也计算在内。那密州的初选恰恰就像社会主义国家投票的等额选举一模一样——选票上只有一个候选人的名字。

就算如此单一候选人,希拉里也不过只有百分之五十几的票数。须知此乃没有任何竞争对手的结果,比之动则全票通过差得远。她就怎么好意思大言不惭地把这些票数都算在里面呢?

既不"懂"基本算术概念又不"懂"基本选战原则,能够相信她一直是在为大众谋利益吗?

就算是宾州的胜利,也只是缩小了十四票的差距。从原先欧巴马的领先百分之十到现在希拉里还差百分之九。何况宾州取胜仍然是哀兵策略——只能胜不能输一输就会出局。

宾州得胜达到希拉里阵营的最低目标——两位数领先的最低标准。其实再注意一下,那两位数字是四舍五入的结果。说是大州各个取胜其实又是一个烟幕弹——新罕州两滴眼泪挽回初战失利的面子结果席位平分秋色和欧巴马一样多;德州的结果并不理想无所谓领先作用;佛州是照规定不计票的;能够自慰的是加州和俄州以及自家待着的那个纽约州。当然同样是大州的伊州密苏里就不提了。

接下去,如果剩下的九个照宾州模式演下去,照样落后照样是有不小差距。除非确实民主党发昏会推翻自己的决定把密州的单一候选人选票计算在内,或者是超级代表一边倒才行。

看来,由党内大老来做最后抉择是必然的。因为她花样百出因为她不依不饶因为她能够摈弃基本原则只为了一个目标。可别忘了超级代表席位数欧巴马正在迎头赶上来——到时候党内大老的两派分裂和“路线”斗争在所难免。



是非是我非我
2008-4-25 09:12
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July

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我已经不再看竞选了,一看就生气。克林顿这种道德败坏,无所不用其极的行为居然还有市场,倒使我开始怀疑美国人民的判断力了。布什再混,却不是一个坏人,品质也无可非议。

我很希望有个人能说服我希拉里好在那里,我愿洗耳恭听。

我不是说总统竞选人要十全十美,他们的政策也可以随着情况而改变调整, 但人的行为要有底线,克林顿可以说是为人无耻,为了达到目的不择手段,还说美国人民需要一个不屈不饶的总统,她是一个真正的机会主义者,除了要当总统不屈不饶外,没有一件事上能让人相信,一个说假话不加思索的人,能当总统?

God Bless America!


2008-4-27 20:44
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zhuxiaodi

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Hahaha... May I say that it seems to me that God has already cursed America for 8 years? If we cannot elect the right man for President this year (--yes, not a woman, for this time), God may curse America again. I am praying: God bless America, please.

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Originally posted by July at 2008-4-28 01:44 AM:
我已经不再看竞选了,一看就生气。克林顿这种道德败坏,无所不用其极的行为居然还有市场,倒使我开始怀疑美国人民的判断力了。布什再混,却不是一个坏人,品质也无可非议。

我很希望有个人能说服我希拉里好在那..



2008-4-27 22:10
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笑雨

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Originally posted by July at 2008-4-28 01:44 AM:
我已经不再看竞选了,一看就生气。克林顿这种道德败坏,无所不用其极的行为居然还有市场,倒使我开始怀疑美国人民的判断力了。布什再混,却不是一个坏人,品质也无可非议。

我很希望有个人能说服我希拉里好在那..

不过,有时候,好人并不一定能成为一个好总统,比如: 前总统卡特。作为一国之君,还是要有些手段和谋略的。


2008-4-27 22:40
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July

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Originally posted by 笑雨 at 2008-4-28 03:40 AM:



不过,有时候,好人并不一定能成为一个好总统,比如: 前总统卡特。作为一过之君,还是要有些手段和谋略的。

对我这样的美国人民来说,她的手段和谋略是为了她自己,是卑鄙无耻,是愚蠢。I am shamed to be an American if she would be a president.

用你的话,对那些美国人民,就是要选一个坏人,因为她有手段和谋略?

好人并不一定能成为一个好总统, 我同意,但是坏人,小人,恶人更不能成为好总统。


2008-4-27 22:57
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笑雨

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Originally posted by July at 2008-4-28 03:57 AM:


对我这样的美国人民来说,她的手段和谋略是为了她自己,是卑鄙无耻,是愚蠢。I am shamed to be an American if she would be a president.

用你的话,对那些美国人民,就是要选一个坏人,因为她有手段和谋..

这就是类似中国“厚黑学”里的大黑与小黑之说。


2008-4-27 23:20
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July

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Originally posted by 笑雨 at 2008-4-28 04:20 AM:




这就是类似中国“厚黑学”里的大黑与小黑之说。

所以就要change吗,厚黑学是糟粕,不是真理。没有十全十美的人,但要有底线。


2008-4-27 23:26
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悟空

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Hehe, I don't think God has anyything to do wityh all these. Why should God care?  Of course, I am speaking of Spinoza's God, who happens to be Einstein's God and Thomas Jefferson's God.

At the minimum, we should look at this thing beyond personal level. After all, anybody who has risen to this level must be fighting a cause larger than him/herself. That doesn't mean personality is insignificant. Take HRC as an example, you may well argue that she is ambitious, and she doesn't have the slightest defeatist trace in her bone, all of which may have very well contributed to her decision of staying in the race. But what about her supporters? What about the ideas she represents? To demean her appeal and/or to discount her support in pejorative terms is naive, to say the very least.   

All politicians are calculating. That's part of their job requirements. . A not-so-distant exapmple is Mike Huckerbee. Huckerbee was far behind John McCain (200 vs 600 something). But he vowed to stay in the race until he was "mathematicallly eliminated". Now HRC is only 100 delegates behind BHO, and 300 superdelegates have yet to vote, and she just came fresh out a major victroy in PA, and most of all, and poll suggests she has better chance to beat McCain inn the general election, why on eatrth should she quit ? If she quitted at this moment, why should she be in in the first place???

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Poll: Clinton has better chance than Obama of beating McCain
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 18 minutes ago

Hillary Rodham Clinton has a better chance than Barack Obama of beating Republican John McCain, according to a new Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable in the fall than her rival for the Democratic nomination.

The survey released Monday gives Clinton a fresh talking point as she works to convince pivotal undecided superdelegates to side with her in the drawn-out Democratic primary fight.

Clinton, who won the Pennsylvania primary last week, has gained ground this month in a hypothetical head-to-head match up with the GOP nominee-in-waiting; she now leads McCain, 50 percent to 41 percent, while Obama remains virtually tied with McCain, 46 percent to 44 percent.

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Originally posted by zhuxiaodi at 2008-4-28 03:10 AM:
Hahaha... May I say that it seems to me that God has already cursed America for 8 years? If we cannot elect the right man for President this year (--yes, not a woman, for this time), God may curse ..



2008-4-28 12:10
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July

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Originally posted by 悟空 at 2008-4-28 05:10 PM:
Hehe, I don't think God has anyything to do wityh all these. Why should God care?  Of course, I am speaking of Spinoza's God, who happens to be Einstein's God and Thomas Jefferson's God.

At ..

This unmoral, dishonest woman could be your vote, but not mine, I do care my heart as well as my GOD!


2008-4-28 14:20
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